I enjoy your posts and often think how fun it'd be to hang out together and about all this stuff and more! Two of you got me giggling out loud: stuck me funny. Thanks all.
Thanks to J and Gary for these. . . :-)
And O'Sheas from MA being Catholics. . . .I guess. lol A struggle. . .not so much. You know I hesr guys talk or write about the asweful sermons condemning gays, etc. I believe that happens. BUT I have nevere heard one of those sermons myself. .ever!
In our small group theraspy/discussions at school we've talked about all the religion bashing about gays and I have heard some really bad stuff. . .read some. .and we've really shred deep about our feelings as gay guys living or not our religious beliefs, etc, and about the mess this can and does often enough create in guys' heads and hearts.
From about 4yo on when I had my crush on Peter I and growing up I never thought the feelings I had and have for other guys was wrong, sinful, abnormal. [I didn't then have the vocabulary I have now] I talked about this with my parents and they never told me I was bad or I shouldn't feel that way, or "God doesn't love little boys like that".
Oh I heard some stuff from other kids and learned soon enough to keep some of my ideas to myself. In Provincetown there are laws against bashing, harrassing gays, etc. besides we are in the majority when you come right down to it. And people do get arrested for that. Doesn't happen often though. LOL
As far as churches condemning gays and sexual expressions, etc. . . well, they just don't get it . .yet. I'd say the Vatican [and they are only one small part of the church!] condemns sex. . period. . . . except if you are married -- one man, one woman, once! It doesn't condone sexual activity for anyone else! Everyone else is obligated to live a celibate life.
Helloooooooooooooooooooooooo! hahahaaa Well, let them pull it and haul it. . .I learned this. I am created in the image and likeness of God. I didn't choose my sexuality, gender, sexual orientation. Who I am is God's gift thru my parents to me. God made me gay and that is God's gift to me. Some people haven't caught on yet to reality.
I have never felt guilty about my love and lust feelings. They are that - feelings. Feelings are neither good nor bed, moral or immoral. They are just my feelings here and now and later, too.
I don't feel guilty holding hands with Peter as we walk along Commercial St. I don't feel guilty kissing him, making love with him. We are not evil, bad, destroying society.
I love this from the bible. Paul is writing to one of the churches and teaching them. He ends with this fantastic statement: "And if you don't see eye to eye with me on these matters I am sure God will make it clear to you!" Isn't that awesome! What a smartass St Paul was!
So yeah, I am gay, I am Catholic, I go to Mass and receive Communion. It is my church as much as the pope's: we're both members. And no one is gonna drive me out! ;-)0
These are some of my ideas about being a gay Catholic. I'd like to read some of your ideas.