Thursday, December 1, 2011

FYI. . . .Argue with this guy. . . ;-)


Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:41 AM
A good argument

Thanks, Greg.  Good stuff. . . ;-)
"Two Lesbians raised a baby and this is what they got. . "

Seen it?  See it again.


Gary Kelly said...

The only thing that surprises me about that young man's situation is that it needs to be explained to supposedly intelligent, mature adults.

Coop said...

That video is (also) Everywhere! :-]

But there's no hottie on bended knee offering a ring who almost makes me want to cry out "Yes!"
So it's not as good as the Australian one.

JustinO'Shea said...

But no surprise at all, Gary. . ..he man you've been around longer than I so you've heard and experienced the ignorance of the educated far longer and more often than I have.

Look what we are up against. These ordinary, educated, upright and moral christians, nominally for the greater part, at least here in the USA, and arising from many many splinter groups of all kinds. . including the so-called mainlne church. . .have all been ery well educated on the finer points of religious and biblical discriminatory attitudes. . .and a kind of tolerance only for those who happen to agree with and believe as I do. Just look at the variety of backgrounds among gay people here, who contribute to this Blog.

And just like the rest of humanity we gays too have our own brand of reactionary intolerance and discriminatory practice not only toward "them outsiders" but also for gays and lesbians who dare to be different from us who think of ourselves as "mainliners" and authorities on being gay.

From the numbers who read this blog every day. . . .according to the stats recorded. . .very few say anything or in any way reveal their presence on the Dunes. BUt I know you are there. . and I wonder why you never share your ideas and thoughts with the few of us who post. . . because you must have ideas which differ or are the same as some others. . .it can't be that every article or comment I post or others write in are so irrelevant as not to warrant anything. . .any kind of agreement or comment, or question or. . .. . whatever. . .

This is not my campaign to foster numbers. Trust me. But I am always hoping to read other and different ideas and stuff. The one thing I hope to gain from this blog and my efforts is k-n-o-w-l-e-d-g-e...of you, from you. . . "Reach out and touch someone. . "

Anyway, back to my beginning comment to Gary. . .do you think we gays sometimes ourselves, without intending it, really contribute to the continuing ignorance of the general populace that we still need to have people like Zack and others get up and TEACH them something. . .publicly question their mean stupidity and fake-religious intolerance "in the name of God". Think of the stuff that gets passed off as the "will of God" and are done and supported in the name of God. . just think. .

I believe in God and am a member of a pretty intolerant church --sorry, it is. But I also picture in my heart an image of God whose reaction to all the mean intolerance is a sad "Don't blame me. . t'was never any of My doing. . " as God sadly washes his hands of all of our silly mean pettiness.

What does the so-called "gay community" do about it? Ignoring and avoiding them does not change a damned thing.
- - justin o'shea

JustinO'Shea said...

COOPS. . the video is everywhere. It is a primitive and there fore primary educational priciple:


And the video is NOT about kneeling down and offering rings and promises, is it. . . .And you'd rush to cry out YES? Really? How? Where?
and. . ..W H E N ?. . . .

I wanna be there. . .I wanna see that. . . .;-)

Coop said...

Confronting those idiots could force a gay man to publicize his own sexuality. That may be why people don't want to speak up.

Any "Christian" who wastes their breath condemning sinners and spouting old testament quotes doesn't get what it means to be a Christian.

Yes, I would say "Yes!" to the right Mr I.M.A Hunk :)

JustinO'Shea said...

COOPS. . . .what about Mr. I.M.NO.Hunk ?

Coop said...

"Hunk" means a man to whom I am attracted, Justin. :-)
I'm not looking for only superficial beauty.

Anonymous said...

All this hate from Christian groups has made some people think about conversion therapy, praying the gay away and stuff like that.

Richard said...

Let's see, you have to be 25 to be a member of the US House of Representatives. Zack has just enough time to finish his BA and get through law school before he runs. I guarantee you we will be hearing a lot more from this very talented young man.

Coop said...

I'll be happy if Zack gets involved in politics and makes a positive difference. I hope he doesn't turn into just another career politician.

Justin, why not issue an invitation
to the numbers on the front page... not in the comments. [-:

JustinO'Shea said...

THANKS, Coopsta, for your helpful and good sense suggestion. ;-)
I shall follow this. justin

Gary Kelly said...

The ignorance of the educated? What an interesting phrase.

Well, JustinO, education doesn't necessarily have anything to do with logic and/or reason. Lots of educated people wouldn't have a clue if their butts were on fire.

Mainstream education is basically absorbing what others have said and/or written, believing it to be true... without question. Which could easily be a case of the blind leading the blind.

Teachers are like fillers of empty vessels. They can choose to fill them with whatever they like.

So the question is, how do we - as empty vessels - distinguish between truth and falsehood? I believe we should question everything we see and hear, and never take anything for granted.

If the Bible accuses me of being a sinner because I am a doubter, then so be it.

Gary Kelly said...

Oh... as to repetition and learning, guess who said “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”.

Adolf Hitler